1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,840 If the United States Air Force did recover alien bodies, they didn't tell me about it 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,400 either, and I want to know. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,080 Is it possible for the military to keep secrets about UFOs from the president? 4 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:25,760 There's always things like that going on. 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,280 They're flying saucers and they've had other things, you know. 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,040 What does the Commander-in-Chief really know about extraterrestrials? 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,280 We were facing an alien threat from outside this world. 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,720 How many times has the United States defended itself from UFOs? 9 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,760 Since World War II, every chief executive has tackled the national security threat posed 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,200 by unidentified flying objects. 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Discover the evidence behind these presidential predicaments as we open the UFO files on. 12 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:12,720 UFOs and the White House. 13 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:18,200 It's the early morning hours of February 25, 1942, just two months after the attack on 14 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,400 Pearl Harbor. 15 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,240 All is quiet at the White House while President Franklin Delano Roosevelt sleeps. 16 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,480 Three thousand miles away, the West Coast border of the United States is encroached 17 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,880 by an enemy, an unidentified flying enemy. 18 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Chaos erupts with a blip on a radar screen. 19 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:56,480 Lots of events may have involved the alarm or the report coming through to the radio, 20 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,760 the radio operator notifying the duty sergeant. 21 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Alert, alert, this is not a drill, this is not a drill, alert, alert. 22 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,920 The duty sergeant sounding the alarm or ordering the alarm sounded. 23 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:13,840 From that point on, it would have been somewhat pandemonium at the beginning, of course, 24 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,400 the initial shock, but then of course the troops were very professional and immediately 25 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:23,560 went to their task and went to the assigned positions. 26 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,320 The people operating the search lights would have manned the lights, people operating the 27 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:33,360 guns, manned the guns, ready to take on the enemy. 28 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,120 Within minutes, the dark Southern California coast is crumpled with beams of light and 29 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:45,560 streaks of anti-aircraft fire. 30 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,240 Perhaps a conservative estimate is maybe about 2,000 rounds fired that night, which 31 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,440 would have been a very loud night for a town used to peacetime. 32 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,240 But as defenses come to play, confusion reigns, but no one seems to know exactly where the 33 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,920 enemy is. 34 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:05,800 Well that's the big mystery and it's still a mystery today. 35 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:11,280 Talk to many veterans and they will swear to you that they saw aircraft that night. 36 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,760 You will talk to many officers who will tell you there was nothing in the air that night. 37 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,920 You will talk to civilians who saw aircraft that night. 38 00:03:18,920 --> 00:03:22,360 So it's really somewhat of a mystery still. 39 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,680 The army officially concluded that there probably were airplanes up there, but there's 40 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:32,120 no information as to whether they were US or Japanese or whose they were. 41 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,040 By definition, I think a UFO. 42 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,600 Now if you want me to say it's little green men, I'm not prepared to commit to that, but 43 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:46,000 yes, it was an unidentified flying object I think it's fair to say. 44 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,720 For nearly an hour, the ballistic barrage peppers the skies. 45 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,080 But as day breaks, it becomes apparent that the only damage caused by the soldiers is 46 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,240 to the city of Los Angeles. 47 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Everything that goes up must come down and of course the surrounding areas were littered 48 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,320 with shrapnel fragments. 49 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:09,640 So flak was raining down and in some cases live shells actually came down and detonated. 50 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Of course the media responded as the media does much of the time with, you know, let's 51 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,880 sell some newspapers. 52 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:21,640 So perhaps the stories were exaggerated, perhaps not. 53 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,320 In fact one of the stories that was going around about the LA thing was that the Japanese 54 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,840 had submarines and that they were launching planes off of submarines which makes absolutely 55 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:30,840 no sense whatsoever. 56 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:34,600 If you take eyewitness reports they said it was hovering, not just going slow, it was 57 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:35,600 hovering. 58 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:41,040 They have the one photograph where this thing has all the lights focused on it and basically 59 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:48,400 doesn't look like any type of plane that was available at that time. 60 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Accounts of citywide wreckage are explained to President Roosevelt in Washington. 61 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,920 The task falls to General George C. Marshall, the War Department's chief of staff. 62 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Well Marshall's letter is probably one of the most curious documents to ever be issued 63 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,720 about the event. 64 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:09,080 It says as many as 15 airplanes may have been there, varying at speeds from very slow to 65 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:14,800 immediately increasing to 200 miles per hour, ranging from altitude from 9,000 to 18,000 66 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:15,800 feet. 67 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:23,320 And again, no bombs were dropped, no casualties inflicted, no Allied or US Navy or Army airplanes 68 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,000 in the air that night. 69 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,880 It just doesn't seem to make sense. 70 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,400 If the Japanese had come all this way, we would have thought that there would have at 71 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,000 least been some bombing and certainly if there was more than one aircraft. 72 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,720 Nobody can say for sure how FDR first reacted to word that his military responded to what 73 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,240 some claim to have been an unidentified flying object. 74 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:51,800 The only thing that came back from the President was a memo from him to Stimson who was the 75 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Secretary of War. 76 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,720 The President sent a curt message to Harry Stimson demanding to know who was responsible 77 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,840 for the air alarm systems in the United States and if anyone other than authorized officials 78 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:04,400 could have triggered them. 79 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:10,800 How Stimson replied to FDR and how he explained the unidentified enemy remains a mystery. 80 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:16,720 No records of his response were found in the National Archives or FDR's Presidential Library. 81 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,320 At the time I don't think they saw it as an extraterrestrial phenomena. 82 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:30,440 And I believe in 1942 it would have been a curiosity type item. 83 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,440 The Axis powers will control the continents. 84 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,800 I think President Roosevelt was so caught up with the war effort and his failing health 85 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:58,960 that UFOs didn't rank high in his list of concerns. 86 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,000 July 1947. 87 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,800 New threats of war and a new enemy, the Soviet Union. 88 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,200 That false philosophy is communism. 89 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:16,560 As Americans looking to the sky, some say they see UFOs. 90 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,240 President Harry S. Truman is informed of a possible incident in New Mexico. 91 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,960 Suddenly Roswald occurs, they have a press leak, it's starting to get picked up all over 92 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,960 the country. 93 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:32,800 I see him as the first president to actually deal with the UFO issue in a public sense. 94 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,640 And Truman was the man on the spot when this stuff hit big time. 95 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:43,280 Truman is an absolute critical key in looking at the entire UFO phenomenon in the early 96 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:44,280 years. 97 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,640 We know that these presidents were being briefed orally if nothing else on the topic 98 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,080 of flying saucers. 99 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,800 Now this is not something that you're going to read in Harry Truman's memoirs. 100 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,160 And it's not something that you're going to read about in an academic treatment of the 101 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,280 Truman administration and yet we know absolutely that it happened. 102 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,480 How do we know this? 103 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,480 We know it from the man who gave Truman his briefings. 104 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:12,640 And that was General Robert Landry, who was a colonel at the time in the Air Force. 105 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,960 President Truman rewarded Landry, his personal pilot, for his exemplary service by appointing 106 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:23,040 him as his Air Force aide on UFOs to consult with the CIA on the subject. 107 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:28,800 And that he was told to report to the president orally and brief him orally every three months 108 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:34,040 on the subject in UFOs, which he said he did up until the president left office. 109 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,480 By my estimation, that could be as many as 18 briefings. 110 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,720 Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall of some of those conversations? 111 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,040 It's done orally. 112 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,160 We don't want records. 113 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,120 If you don't want it on the front page of the New York Times, don't put it in a file. 114 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,120 That kind of idea. 115 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:55,040 But an incident said to have occurred in the nation's capital was impossible to ignore. 116 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,320 1952 is just, again, one of these very significant years in UFO history. 117 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:09,600 A massive wave of very high quality sightings by military and civilians all across the U.S., 118 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:15,320 culminating in successive weekends in July of 1952 of UFOs over the capital. 119 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,600 It was like invasion type stuff. 120 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,040 Things would disappear, the fighter jets would go back, the things would reappear, and it 121 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,440 showed that the government was very sort of out of control. 122 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,840 They couldn't control it. 123 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:35,120 It was such a big thing that the press made it the front page of the New York Times. 124 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,960 So there was less hesitation on the part of public leaders to talk about flying saucers. 125 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,640 Harry Truman did so in the 1950s during one press conference. 126 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:54,480 Did the Joint Chief of Staff talk to you or concern you about the unknown and the unidentified 127 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,480 flying out? 128 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,280 Yes, we discussed it at every conference that we had with the military and they never had 129 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,280 been in it. 130 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,360 They never were able to make me a concrete report on what makes you. 131 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,360 You haven't included anything in the context, sir. 132 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,360 No, I haven't. 133 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,520 I haven't anything on the subject. 134 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,720 There's always things like that going on. 135 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,720 The flying saucers and they've had other things, you know. 136 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:33,520 We shall never try to placate an aggressor by the faults and wicked bargain of trading 137 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,760 honor for security. 138 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,120 While Truman addressed the subject publicly, he was never said to have a close encounter 139 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,120 himself. 140 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:47,480 However, Dwight Eisenhower, according to ufologists, experienced the sighting in the early 1950s. 141 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,920 And the story was that he was off the British coast in 1952 and that this object, a bluish 142 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,760 type object, appeared off the side of the ship. 143 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,480 I think it occurred for about ten minutes. 144 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:05,120 Eisenhower and the Admiral on the ship had come out onto the deck and Eisenhower was 145 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,120 in PJs. 146 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:12,080 He stood there and watched this thing and that Eisenhower basically said, well, I better 147 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,480 go look into this. 148 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,000 I wouldn't mention it right now and went in and the fellow who reported it said he never 149 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,160 heard any more about it again. 150 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:27,920 During Eisenhower's term, UFOs became part of America's pop culture for movies and TV 151 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:28,920 shows. 152 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:37,160 But the White House may have had more than a movie script to read. 153 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:44,920 Eisenhower was on the job when UFO secrecy really started to formulate in a systematic 154 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:45,920 way. 155 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:51,360 It was under Eisenhower's administration that even within the military, the UFO topic 156 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,880 was becoming much more restrictive. 157 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,920 There were perhaps off the cuff remarks from people close to the White House. 158 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:03,520 In May 1954, during a speech in Amarillo, Texas, General Nathan Twining, Eisenhower's 159 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,080 Air Force Chief of Staff, made a surprising statement. 160 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:13,320 He said, and if they come from Mars and do this advance, I don't think we have anything 161 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:13,920 to worry about. 162 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:23,280 When we return, does the Commander-in-Chief's access to military files about UFOs depend 163 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,920 on his political party affiliation? 164 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:40,920 And let every other power know that this hemisphere intends to remain the master of its own house. 165 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:57,920 1963, President John F. Kennedy was boating near his Hyannisport home. 166 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:06,920 Suzer reported an alleged sighting that he was sailing off Cape Cod at an object, silver 167 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:12,080 object, whatever it was, 60 feet across something like that, came down and everybody saw the 168 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:18,240 object and Kennedy basically said, let's not tell anybody about this. 169 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:24,240 It's hard to substantiate the story, it's something which you can either believe or disbelieve. 170 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,240 JFK's knowledge on UFOs is hard to gauge. 171 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:34,240 His tragically short-term office left few UFO records in his presidential library. 172 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:39,380 Kennedy is a great mystery with the UFO topic because there is reason to believe that Kennedy 173 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:42,380 had some real information on UFOs. 174 00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:45,380 He was concerned about avoiding a war. 175 00:13:45,380 --> 00:13:51,380 To regard any nuclear missile, launch from Cuba against any nation in the western hemisphere. 176 00:13:51,380 --> 00:13:54,380 Remember the Cuban missile crisis and all this kind of thing. 177 00:13:54,380 --> 00:13:58,380 This will produce the greatest crisis which the world has faced in its history. 178 00:13:58,380 --> 00:14:04,380 Well aware that Saucers might cause us to start a war or the Russians to start a war, 179 00:14:04,380 --> 00:14:12,380 but I think he would have been very diplomatic about making sure that we didn't go shooting down flying Saucers, for example. 180 00:14:12,380 --> 00:14:19,380 Records show that Robert F. Kennedy, JFK's brother and the Attorney General, did share letters from UFO researchers 181 00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:22,380 with Congressman Gerald Ford and Air Force officials. 182 00:14:22,380 --> 00:14:25,380 Robert Kennedy was very interested in UFOs. 183 00:14:25,380 --> 00:14:28,380 There's a number of letters that have surfaced where he dealt with UFOs. 184 00:14:28,380 --> 00:14:35,380 So it's very rare to get somebody in that high an office to actually deal with the subject in writing. 185 00:14:39,380 --> 00:14:44,380 Many UFO researchers believe that political differences may affect access to certain information 186 00:14:44,380 --> 00:14:50,380 and that some US presidents have not been fully briefed about UFOs by the intelligence community. 187 00:14:50,380 --> 00:14:57,380 The same researchers suggest JFK may have been the first president to be kept from the whole truth. 188 00:14:58,380 --> 00:15:02,380 He was interested in beating the Russians to the moon, but he wasn't interested in space. 189 00:15:02,380 --> 00:15:08,380 It was more of a competition type thing. It was a political thing. 190 00:15:09,380 --> 00:15:13,380 Johnson, on the other hand, was extremely interested in space. 191 00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:17,380 A little space responder initel with instructions 7, 0, 0, 0, 2, 7, 1, 0. 192 00:15:17,380 --> 00:15:41,400 STREET 193 00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:49,380 It responded to a letter from a UFO researcher regarding extraterrestrial visitation. 194 00:15:49,380 --> 00:15:55,380 Johnson replied to the letter and said to him, rather than going to the Air Force, 195 00:15:55,380 --> 00:15:59,380 he told him to go to the executive secretary at NASA. 196 00:15:59,380 --> 00:16:03,380 And it was very strange that he would go to NASA, not the Air Force, 197 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:06,380 and very strange that the vice president would be answering UFO mail. 198 00:16:06,380 --> 00:16:10,380 During LBJ's term, military officials were said to have investigated 199 00:16:10,380 --> 00:16:14,380 and alleged UFO crash near Kecksburg, Pennsylvania. 200 00:16:14,380 --> 00:16:19,380 The events of Thursday, December 9, 1965 remain an important chapter 201 00:16:19,380 --> 00:16:22,380 in the history of UFOs and the White House. 202 00:16:26,380 --> 00:16:29,380 There was a recovery team. NASA was identified as being there. 203 00:16:29,380 --> 00:16:31,380 Air Force was identified as being there. 204 00:16:31,380 --> 00:16:34,380 The object was moved away and end of story. 205 00:16:34,380 --> 00:16:37,380 They said it was a meteorite. That was the official explanation. 206 00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:41,380 What I do in a lot of my presidential research is I take major UFO events. 207 00:16:41,380 --> 00:16:46,380 I go to White House records and then I start looking at who was there. 208 00:16:46,380 --> 00:16:49,380 Where was the president? Where was the secretary of defense? 209 00:16:49,380 --> 00:16:55,380 So anyway, I went to the Johnson Library and I started looking at where was the president. 210 00:16:55,380 --> 00:16:57,380 He was at the ranch in Austin, Texas. 211 00:16:57,380 --> 00:17:01,380 The next morning, all the right people seemed to appear at the ranch. 212 00:17:01,380 --> 00:17:06,380 For example, James Webb, the head of NASA, flew into the presidential ranch the next morning. 213 00:17:06,380 --> 00:17:10,380 The governor of the state of Pennsylvania was there. 214 00:17:10,380 --> 00:17:13,380 All the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff, 215 00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:19,380 and they have photographs there of them arriving, arrived at the ranch. 216 00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:23,380 Now, the way they describe the Joint Chiefs of Staff is a Vietnam War meeting. 217 00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:26,380 So even though there's nothing that you can actually nail down, 218 00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:31,380 the president had got pictures of the craft or whatever you want as proof, 219 00:17:31,380 --> 00:17:35,380 it did show some circumstantial evidence that something was happening around the president. 220 00:17:35,380 --> 00:17:37,380 The morning after the crash. 221 00:17:52,380 --> 00:17:57,380 President Richard Milhouse Nixon's interest in UFOs is harder to calculate. 222 00:17:57,380 --> 00:18:01,380 I've talked to people who claim they talked to Nixon about UFOs. 223 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:06,380 He was very interested. There was a rumored story that he had a huge UFO book collection, 224 00:18:06,380 --> 00:18:08,380 which I was never able to substantiate. 225 00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:12,380 Many UFO researchers believe Nixon received specific briefings. 226 00:18:12,380 --> 00:18:15,380 Information he may have wanted to take public. 227 00:18:15,380 --> 00:18:20,380 There's some very good indications that he planned to reveal data 228 00:18:20,380 --> 00:18:22,380 that UFOs passed present and future. 229 00:18:22,380 --> 00:18:27,380 A book by Robert M. Egger, a television program that was done with that title. 230 00:18:27,380 --> 00:18:31,380 I talked to M. Egger and he got asked by the Republican Party to produce that show 231 00:18:31,380 --> 00:18:37,380 using only government people because the idea was they were going to release data. 232 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:44,380 Bob E. Egger was an advertising executive and television producer 233 00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:48,380 who happened to know an important man inside the Nixon White House. 234 00:18:48,380 --> 00:18:54,380 Bob Halderman was someone I knew from UCLA Beta House, which is a fraternity. 235 00:18:54,380 --> 00:18:57,380 Then as you know, he went on to be chief of staff under Nixon. 236 00:18:57,380 --> 00:19:03,380 In the mid-1970s, M. Egger and his partner researched military stories for their TV production 237 00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:06,380 at Norton Air Force Base's Film Archives. 238 00:19:06,380 --> 00:19:08,380 Paul Shartle is the one who took us in there and said, 239 00:19:08,380 --> 00:19:14,380 what would you think if we told you we had a landing at Holloman Air Force Base of an alien craft 240 00:19:14,380 --> 00:19:18,380 and it was filmed by our TDY, our temporary duty guys, 241 00:19:18,380 --> 00:19:23,380 and the film was sent here to Norton where all films usually are sent. 242 00:19:23,380 --> 00:19:29,380 And I thought, this sounds outrageous that, you know, UFOs and all. 243 00:19:29,380 --> 00:19:33,380 He said, well, look, if you're interested, check with the Pentagon, 244 00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:39,380 but bury those under those other projects because it's a red flag to get into the subject of UFOs. 245 00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:43,380 George Weinbrenner was the commander of foreign technology. 246 00:19:43,380 --> 00:19:46,380 He has a private bunker down at Wright Patterson. 247 00:19:46,380 --> 00:19:51,380 I went down the long haul, I could see all the little surveillance cameras, 248 00:19:51,380 --> 00:19:55,380 walked right up to his desk and said, I want to ask you, 249 00:19:55,380 --> 00:19:59,380 what about the landing of an alien craft at Holloman Air Force Base? 250 00:19:59,380 --> 00:20:05,380 And I sort of expected him to say, what? The what? He didn't. 251 00:20:05,380 --> 00:20:08,380 So he reached up, pulled out a book, handed it to me, 252 00:20:08,380 --> 00:20:13,380 so I opened the book, I'm going to say to my friend, Colonel George Weinbrenner, 253 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:17,380 signed Dr. Alan Heineck, and the book was all on UFOs. 254 00:20:17,380 --> 00:20:23,380 Well, Heineck was the scientific advisor to the Air Force at that time on UFOs. 255 00:20:23,380 --> 00:20:29,380 Perplexed, Eman Egger contacted his friend and Nixon's chief of staff, Bob Haldeman. 256 00:20:29,380 --> 00:20:37,380 He was at the White House, and I asked if he had heard anything about the landing at Holloman Air Force Base, 257 00:20:37,380 --> 00:20:43,380 and he said, well, I heard something, but I don't know whether the president knew I have no idea. 258 00:20:43,380 --> 00:20:48,380 While Eman Egger never obtained the Holloman film for the 1974 nationally broadcast program, 259 00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:54,380 his first-hand experience provides researchers insight on what American presidents may have known about UFOs. 260 00:20:57,380 --> 00:21:01,380 A friend of mine helping me out talked to two ex-presidents, 261 00:21:01,380 --> 00:21:05,380 and they both confirmed that they had been shown the Holloman Air Force Base film. 262 00:21:14,380 --> 00:21:24,380 The Congress should investigate the rash of reported sightings of unidentified flying objects in southern Michigan and other parts of the country. 263 00:21:24,380 --> 00:21:33,380 Gerald R. Ford had shown interest in the UFO subject as a congressman due to sightings by people in his district during the 1960s. 264 00:21:33,380 --> 00:21:39,380 What a lot of people don't realize is that the primary function of a congressman is to serve as constituents. 265 00:21:39,380 --> 00:21:47,380 So, Jerry, out of service to his constituents, saw to it that there would be a hearing. 266 00:21:47,380 --> 00:21:51,380 So, Gerald Ford went to the bat for the people who wanted an answer, 267 00:21:51,380 --> 00:21:57,380 and he made a lot of very, very strong statements saying that he wanted a congressional investigation. 268 00:22:00,380 --> 00:22:08,380 On April 5, 1966, the House Armed Services Committee held public hearings on the subject of unidentified flying objects. 269 00:22:08,380 --> 00:22:11,380 Air Force Secretary Harold Brown concluded, 270 00:22:21,380 --> 00:22:27,380 It's unknown whether the hearings actually had an impact on Ford's view of UFOs after becoming president, 271 00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:34,380 but many researchers maintain Ford selected advisors who showed an understanding of the potential threat posed by UFOs. 272 00:22:35,380 --> 00:22:39,380 He had some advisors who, at the time, may not have been all that important. 273 00:22:39,380 --> 00:22:42,380 There was Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. 274 00:22:42,380 --> 00:22:50,380 George Bush Sr. as his CIA director had some people who he could trust and who could trust him. 275 00:22:54,380 --> 00:23:00,380 After leaving the White House, Ford replied to a letter from a former Air Force intelligence officer who researched UFOs. 276 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:08,380 During my public career in Congress, as vice president and president, I made various requests for information on UFOs. 277 00:23:08,380 --> 00:23:12,380 The official authorities always denied the UFO allegations. 278 00:23:12,380 --> 00:23:15,380 As president, Ford said nothing on this topic. 279 00:23:15,380 --> 00:23:18,380 So, you can either think someone got to him or he just lost interest, 280 00:23:18,380 --> 00:23:23,380 but I think more likely he decided it wasn't politically prudent to discuss this matter. 281 00:23:24,380 --> 00:23:32,380 Coming up, some presidents put all politics aside once they have their own UFO encounters. 282 00:23:32,380 --> 00:23:58,380 While there are some documents connecting UFOs in the White House and a few reports that presidents may have seen them, there's only one public admission. 283 00:23:59,380 --> 00:24:04,380 President Jimmy Carter was the first commander-in-chief to admit to seeing the UFO. 284 00:24:05,380 --> 00:24:09,380 Carter was known as UFO president because he actually talked about his sighting. 285 00:24:09,380 --> 00:24:16,380 A UFO group had contacted him, wrote him a letter and said, could you fill out our sighting report? 286 00:24:16,380 --> 00:24:20,380 Jimmy Carter filled out the sighting report and the rest is history. 287 00:24:20,380 --> 00:24:28,380 Well, Carter himself said the incident happened in October of 1969 when he was down in Lyri, Georgia, speaking at Alliance Club. 288 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:30,380 He spoke very strongly about it. 289 00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:42,380 And one thing I think it also is very impressive to the public is the fact that Carter was a state legislator here in Georgia when he saw the sighting. 290 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:50,380 And he went on record about it and spoke of it quite publicly and even becoming governor and then later becoming president. 291 00:24:50,380 --> 00:24:58,380 He's never waffled on it. He's always been quite up front about it. Yes, I saw something in it and no, I could not identify it. 292 00:24:58,380 --> 00:25:03,380 I don't make fun of people. He said they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. 293 00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:13,380 He'll always say that he can associate with people who have had the experience, that he would never laugh at anybody who's had a UFO sighting because he's experienced it himself. 294 00:25:16,380 --> 00:25:20,380 Carter's UFO report gives a vivid account of what he saw that night. 295 00:25:20,380 --> 00:25:28,380 I never have tried to identify. What I saw, it was a light in the western sky that was very unique in our city before. 296 00:25:29,380 --> 00:25:37,380 Carter said the object he saw had firm edges. It was circular. It seemed self-illuminous. 297 00:25:37,380 --> 00:25:42,380 It was about a thousand yards away and it retreated and then it came forward and then it left. 298 00:25:42,380 --> 00:25:55,380 Basically, when you talk about UFOs, people look at you strangely and for that reason, I think a lot of people would not be willing to be like Carter and go on the line and actually fill out a report. 299 00:25:56,380 --> 00:26:20,380 He's never disavowed the content of his report, which tells me that Jimmy Carter, just as honest as a man is, you'll ever find in or out of government, has left that bit of legacy to be savored by future UFO researchers who can point to it as a milestone in the fact that the government does know more than it has been telling about the subject. 300 00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:26,380 And this was enough inspiration for Jimmy to try to funnel out some of that knowledge. 301 00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:38,380 While running for the presidency, Carter made campaign promises that he would release all he could about UFOs once he took office. 302 00:26:38,380 --> 00:26:44,380 Well, I would make information we have about the website available to the public and I didn't decide. 303 00:26:44,380 --> 00:26:57,380 And how did they try to hold Jimmy Carter to his promise? They wrote letters to him as soon as he got in office saying, Jimmy, you're now where you can fulfill your promise, please do so. 304 00:26:57,380 --> 00:27:03,380 As many as 9,000 UFO-related letters from citizens reached the White House during Carter's term. 305 00:27:03,380 --> 00:27:21,380 Naturally, he didn't answer all himself, hardly any of it, but there were many people, some of them were interested in the follow-up to that 1976 promise and others were just interested in telling their own little experience where they might have seen something that they wanted to go on record. 306 00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:29,380 But some researchers suggest other reasons why Carter may not have been able to deliver on his campaign promise. 307 00:27:30,380 --> 00:27:35,380 The CIA comes in and briefs the president on the most important intelligence stuff. 308 00:27:35,380 --> 00:27:42,380 And the person who briefed Jimmy Carter on the intelligence matters was George Bush Sr., the CIA director. 309 00:27:42,380 --> 00:27:48,380 Jimmy Carter asked for the UFO file. The story was that George Bush said, you don't have a need to know. 310 00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:53,380 This works on a need to know and curiosity on the part of the president isn't sufficiently need to know. 311 00:27:53,380 --> 00:28:00,380 To those who claim that George Bush was briefing Carter on UFOs, I think the burden of the proof would be on them. 312 00:28:00,380 --> 00:28:04,380 I mean, there were other much more likely subjects for them to be talking about. 313 00:28:04,380 --> 00:28:13,380 Regardless, President Carter did release UFO-related documents during his administration. The UFO community considers it the golden years. 314 00:28:14,380 --> 00:28:23,380 Half of all the UFO documents, just thousands of UFO documents, have been released under the Freedom Information Act request over the last 30 or 40 years. 315 00:28:23,380 --> 00:28:26,380 Over half of them were released under four years of Jimmy Carter. 316 00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:31,380 These newly declassified documents were sourced from numerous agencies. 317 00:28:31,380 --> 00:28:36,380 They contain information about many UFO sightings and the military responses. 318 00:28:36,380 --> 00:28:41,380 Access to the declassified material continues to bolster UFO research. 319 00:28:44,380 --> 00:28:48,380 The UFOs are being released under the Freedom Information Act request. 320 00:28:48,380 --> 00:28:53,380 The UFOs are being released under the Freedom Information Act request. 321 00:28:53,380 --> 00:29:03,380 We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow and let there be no misunderstanding. We are going to begin to act. 322 00:29:03,380 --> 00:29:09,380 There are reports that Ronald Reagan had two UFO experiences prior to serving as president. 323 00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:14,380 The story of his first sighting reached the public through the memoirs of actress Lucille Ball. 324 00:29:14,380 --> 00:29:19,380 She recalled that Reagan and wife Nancy arrived late to a Hollywood party. 325 00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:25,380 She stated that when Mr. Reagan and Nancy arrived at the party, they were all excited. 326 00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:34,380 They told everybody about the sighting, that this thing had seen it coming down the coast. They had watched this whole thing. 327 00:29:35,380 --> 00:29:40,380 Ronald Reagan was very interested in the topic of UFOs, privately, very much so. 328 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:46,380 And indeed, has been said to have seen one while flying on an aircraft as governor of California. 329 00:29:46,380 --> 00:29:48,380 Apparently very interesting sighting. 330 00:29:54,380 --> 00:29:59,380 Allegedly, Reagan saw a white light zigzagging alongside his aircraft. 331 00:29:59,380 --> 00:30:03,380 He stepped into the cockpit and told the pilot to follow it. 332 00:30:05,380 --> 00:30:10,380 His pilot had 30,000 hours as a pilot, which is an incredible number. 333 00:30:10,380 --> 00:30:12,380 And the whole plane load of them saw this thing. 334 00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:19,380 They reportedly chased the mysterious light for several minutes until it shot Skyward out of sight. 335 00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:29,380 Could these alleged sightings have fueled Reagan's repeated references to UFOs and alien life during his presidency? 336 00:30:30,380 --> 00:30:39,380 February 11, 1988. In a speech called, Remarks at the annual conservative political action conference dinner, Reagan said, 337 00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:47,380 Our unshakable, root-deep, all-encompassing skepticism about the capital city's answer to the UFO, 338 00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:55,380 that Bazaar ever tottering but ever flickering saucer in the sky called the prevailing Washington wisdom. 339 00:30:55,380 --> 00:31:05,380 Presidential speech is a very complex thing. It has many drafts. It has people who prove every word as to whether every word is accurate in their figures, facts. 340 00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:11,380 It's a very long involved process. There's up to 25 agencies who have to sign off state department. 341 00:31:11,380 --> 00:31:14,380 Everybody gets to put their little two cents in what they want taken out. 342 00:31:14,380 --> 00:31:19,380 So I started checking the speeches and I went through every Ronald Reagan speech that had this alien invasion. 343 00:31:19,380 --> 00:31:23,380 Reagan asked his speech writers to address the alien UFO subject. 344 00:31:23,380 --> 00:31:30,380 He believed that if we were endated by people from another planet that the world would come together, the world would unite. 345 00:31:30,380 --> 00:31:32,380 He called it his fantasy. 346 00:31:32,380 --> 00:31:41,380 One of the more compelling exchanges was between speech writer Rhett Dawson who sought to keep the fantasy out of Reagan's speeches and away from the commander in chief. 347 00:31:41,380 --> 00:31:46,380 The discussion preceded President Reagan's address to the 1987 UN General Assembly. 348 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:53,380 There's a memo that comes from the speech writer that says Mr. Reagan, this is your speech and go over it and let me know. 349 00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:59,380 And he noticed that this particular item about the alien invasion had been removed. 350 00:31:59,380 --> 00:32:03,380 The president responded with a handwritten demand scribbled on the memo. 351 00:32:03,380 --> 00:32:10,380 And on the bottom in Reagan's handwriting, Reagan says there's too much anti-Soviet stuff in here. I want you back away from this. 352 00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:17,380 And oh by the way, could you put my fantasy back in? How the world would unite if faced with creatures from another planet? 353 00:32:17,380 --> 00:32:18,380 And he used the word creatures. 354 00:32:18,380 --> 00:32:28,380 Clearly grasping the president's determination, Dawson rewrote the speech and during the 42nd General Assembly of the United Nations on September 21st 1987, 355 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,380 Reagan said, 356 00:32:30,380 --> 00:32:39,380 Our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. 357 00:32:39,380 --> 00:32:44,380 And yet I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? 358 00:32:50,380 --> 00:32:56,380 When we return, are some presidents in the know about UFO files while others are not? 359 00:32:56,380 --> 00:33:10,380 And the reason is simple. More up to see a UFO than your is planned. 360 00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:27,380 UFO researchers insist that George Herbert Bush is the key to present day UFO knowledge. 361 00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:33,380 George Bush Sr. I think is one of the key presidents when it comes to ufology. 362 00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:40,380 He's a very important president because he has always been believed by a lot of researchers to be a guy who knows what's going on. 363 00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:44,380 He was former CIA director under President Ford. 364 00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:52,380 He was vice president under Ronald Reagan for eight years, would have gotten briefings on many issues including UFOs. 365 00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:57,380 He was trusted by the military. He was trusted mostly by the intelligence community. 366 00:33:57,380 --> 00:34:02,380 In fact now they've actually named a building at the CIA headquarters after George Bush. 367 00:34:02,380 --> 00:34:09,380 Herbert Walker Bush when he was in his earlier days had served as chief of the CIA. 368 00:34:09,380 --> 00:34:17,380 Now some people think in that capacity he was bound to have known about what was going on ufologically at the agency. 369 00:34:20,380 --> 00:34:28,380 If he did, it's still probably won't ever be disclosed until after he's long gone just like the other president. 370 00:34:28,380 --> 00:34:33,380 People did write to the agency by the way probably when he was serving there. 371 00:34:33,380 --> 00:34:39,380 They would send freedom of information requests to the agency for any UFO material in its possession. 372 00:34:39,380 --> 00:34:45,380 They had 900 pages worth and counting. They claimed they no longer look into the subject. 373 00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:50,380 But how many Americans today are going to accept out of hand such a claim as that? 374 00:34:52,380 --> 00:34:57,380 However little evidence can actually leak President Bush to UFOs. 375 00:34:57,380 --> 00:35:03,380 For example when I wrote the Bush Library I asked them about UFO documents. They said they only had one UFO document. 376 00:35:03,380 --> 00:35:09,380 And there are no public documents linking George Bush senior to UFOs. 377 00:35:09,380 --> 00:35:15,380 But I think there's very little doubt in any researcher's mind that this man knew a lot about the topic. 378 00:35:18,380 --> 00:35:23,380 The answer may lie beneath some of the most heavily blacked out government documents. 379 00:35:23,380 --> 00:35:28,380 But it's still very likely that he was recently declassified from a number of military agencies. 380 00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:35,380 To many UFO researchers George H. Bush and members of his staff including Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld 381 00:35:35,380 --> 00:35:40,380 was the power team who kept the UFO files closely guarded within military and intelligence circles. 382 00:35:40,380 --> 00:35:49,380 George Bush is a man who by all accounts knows a lot of what's going on in let's call it the secret world. 383 00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:53,380 George Bush is the world behind the presidency, the world of real power and wealth. 384 00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:58,380 He's a guy behind the scenes, he's got oil money, all the right connections. 385 00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:03,380 And if you want to know what's going on George Bush will know what's going on. He's the guy. 386 00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:22,380 As far as I know an alien spacecraft did not crash in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. 387 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:28,380 William Jefferson Clinton's presidential archives contain extensive records pertaining to UFOs. 388 00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:31,380 From Roswell to alleged close encounters. 389 00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:41,380 I would say that if UFOs are cards Clinton is the royal flush. 390 00:36:41,380 --> 00:36:44,380 I mean Clinton was into UFOs big time. 391 00:36:44,380 --> 00:36:49,380 The Clintons have said that the library in Little Rock has got a lot of windows, it's got a lot of glass 392 00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:53,380 because they wanted to show that it was an open administration. 393 00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:57,380 It's just a gold mine for a researcher. 394 00:36:57,380 --> 00:37:04,380 I think Clinton on one hand did more than any other president to get classified material declassified. 395 00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:12,380 And he did more to open up government disclosure than any other president as far as I know. 396 00:37:12,380 --> 00:37:18,380 Bill Clinton is another president who had a publicly stated interest in the topic of UFOs 397 00:37:18,380 --> 00:37:21,380 and wasn't afraid to say so from time to time publicly. 398 00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:23,380 He would talk about social security. 399 00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:27,380 I mean I saw a survey the other day that said that some people and a lot of people in their 20s 400 00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:31,380 thought it was more likely that they would see a UFO than that they would ever draw social security. 401 00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:37,380 So of course every time they're trying to push social security the president, they go to this little funny thing that they stick in the speech 402 00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:40,380 and Clinton used it eight times. 403 00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:47,380 Yet many researchers believe the Clinton White House was sympathetic about the need to disclose secret UFO files. 404 00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:59,380 Perhaps President Clinton's most impressive comment regarding UFOs was delivered during a speech on November 30th, 1995. 405 00:37:59,380 --> 00:38:03,380 When a presidential speech is written it is not just something the guy makes up. 406 00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:06,380 This is something that will take days, weeks, months to put together. 407 00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:09,380 It will be vetted by everybody. 408 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:12,380 Something that's in a presidential speech is there for a reason. 409 00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:17,380 Bill Clinton is making a peace speech in front of 80,000 people in Belfast, Northern Ireland. 410 00:38:17,380 --> 00:38:23,380 He stands up and in this speech he's talking about kids and he reads a letter from Ryan. 411 00:38:23,380 --> 00:38:28,380 And he said, Ryan, if you're out in the audience today, here's the answer to your question. 412 00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:34,380 If the United States Air Force did recover alien bodies, they didn't tell me about it either. 413 00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:36,380 And I want to know. 414 00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:37,380 I want to know. 415 00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:38,380 I want to know. 416 00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:41,380 This is the part that the press, all over America, played. 417 00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:47,380 The second part of the statement is what I believe is a challenge, a shot across the bow to the military. 418 00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:53,380 He said, but if they did recover alien bodies, they didn't tell me about it either and I want to know. 419 00:38:53,380 --> 00:39:00,380 And when you look at the first Roswell report that was put out by the Air Force in 1994, 1995, it doesn't talk about the bodies. 420 00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:09,380 When we return, all the president's men go on high alert when a UFO approaches the White House. 421 00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:25,380 Music 422 00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:27,380 That's good. How are you? 423 00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:28,380 I'm good to see you. 424 00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:29,380 You're elected president. 425 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:35,380 When you try to trust the people enough to tell you about UFOs, what the story is, half the public believes that they are real. 426 00:39:35,380 --> 00:39:37,380 Would you try to tell us what that helps you in? 427 00:39:37,380 --> 00:39:38,380 Sure. 428 00:39:38,380 --> 00:39:39,380 I will. 429 00:39:39,380 --> 00:39:48,380 According to some UFO researchers, George Walker Bush, the 43rd president of the United States, has reconstituted his father's powerful White House staff, 430 00:39:48,380 --> 00:39:52,380 partially to maintain a grip on UFO secrecy. 431 00:39:54,380 --> 00:40:04,380 Two big ones, Cheney, Rumsfeld, people that have always been considered by the Ufology to be people who have the right connections, 432 00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:07,380 who probably are in the know. 433 00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:15,380 Regarding the administration of George W. Bush, it's unclear how much this man knows about the topic of UFOs. 434 00:40:15,380 --> 00:40:23,380 There are many who argue that the vice president, Dick Cheney, is the man on the spot here in relation to this matter. 435 00:40:27,380 --> 00:40:36,380 On April 11th, 2001, presidential UFO researcher Grant Cameron was able to query vice president Dick Cheney on UFO disclosure. 436 00:40:36,380 --> 00:40:39,380 Cameron knew he'd have to ask pertinent questions. 437 00:40:41,380 --> 00:40:45,380 Have you seen a UFO? Who cares? What do you think about UFOs? Who cares? 438 00:40:45,380 --> 00:40:51,380 The important question is, have you been briefed? Did someone walk in your office one day, get you to sign a piece of paper, 439 00:40:51,380 --> 00:40:57,380 acknowledging that you've been briefed on the subject, and if we can show that the president has been briefed on the subject of UFOs, 440 00:40:57,380 --> 00:41:00,380 it would show that not only does it exist, but it's an important subject. 441 00:41:00,380 --> 00:41:03,380 I did manage to get the question asked to Dick Cheney. 442 00:41:03,380 --> 00:41:09,380 He was on a radio talk show in Washington, D.C. on the Diana Reem show, and I was the first caller up. 443 00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:13,380 I called in and I said to him, and my question was, Mr. Cheney. 444 00:41:13,380 --> 00:41:20,380 Since the statement made by George Bush last to why there's been a vicious rumor circulating in the UFO communities that you've been read into the UFO program, 445 00:41:20,380 --> 00:41:28,380 so my question to you is, in any of your government jobs, have you ever been briefed on the subject of UFOs, and if you have, when was it, and what were you told? 446 00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:34,380 Well, if I had been briefed on that, I'm sure it was probably classified, and I couldn't talk about it. 447 00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:42,380 And it stunned me. It was significant because, first of all, he basically stated it would probably be classified, 448 00:41:42,380 --> 00:41:47,380 and stated I wouldn't be talking about it, which means they're going to continue to keep it secret. 449 00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:54,380 And he basically acknowledged that, yes, he's in the loop, and yes, there is something to this. It's secret, and it's important. 450 00:41:55,380 --> 00:42:01,380 The issue of government disclosure on UFOs as they relate to national security issues has long been debated. 451 00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:11,380 The chief executive either knows or should know what the inner sanctum of official UFO research is all about. 452 00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:17,380 The question is, why can't we get more information from the White House? And I don't know the answer to that. 453 00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:25,380 The politics of disclosure about UFO reality is, I can think, only would be a nightmare for any president of the United States. 454 00:42:25,380 --> 00:42:30,380 It's like being a little bit pregnant. You can't do a little bit of disclosure. It won't sell. 455 00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:40,380 There's always some idea that some office somewhere is accumulating all this data and all that, but again, you would have to know who's doing it. 456 00:42:40,380 --> 00:42:44,380 This gives a lot of ground to conspiracy theorists. 457 00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:52,380 I think presidents all recognize that presidents come and go. They're short-lived when it comes to the Washington establishment. 458 00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:55,380 And intelligence agencies go on forever. 459 00:42:55,380 --> 00:43:04,380 So I think keeping the status quo about UFOs is the easiest way for all of them to behave. 460 00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:16,380 It really is a situation where the people, ordinary people, have got to recognize that it's in their interest to have disclosure on UFOs. 461 00:43:16,380 --> 00:43:24,380 Really for the survival of the system of government that we all grew up believing we had, a government of the people, by the people, for the people. 462 00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:39,380 And disclosure is a critical way in attaining that because it is the opening up of a huge part of our history that has been denied to us for 60 years. 463 00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:41,380 That's a big deal. 464 00:43:43,380 --> 00:43:47,380 And how much has really changed in the day since FDR was president? 465 00:43:47,380 --> 00:43:56,380 With the advances in technology and security, unidentified flying objects are still seen as a credible threat to the White House and the president. 466 00:43:56,380 --> 00:44:06,380 Well, Leon, a report came in late this morning that an unidentified aircraft had entered a restricted area. Folks at the White House took it very seriously. 467 00:44:06,380 --> 00:44:14,380 April 27th, 2005, Radars spotted an unidentified flying object over the White House. 468 00:44:15,380 --> 00:44:22,380 The alert that an unidentified aircraft had violated a no-fly zone caused a whirlwind of activity at the White House. 469 00:44:22,380 --> 00:44:29,380 As the secret service jumped into action, sharpshooters took their position and agents rushed to clear the area. 470 00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:33,380 President Bush and Vice President Cheney were hurried into underground bunkers. 471 00:44:33,380 --> 00:44:44,380 Security forces responded to a perceived threat with pandemonium, strikingly similar to the confusion of the troops who defended against an unidentified flying object in 1942. 472 00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:52,380 Well, what sparked all of this, according to the Department of Homeland Security, was just a blip on the radar screen, no aircraft. 473 00:44:53,380 --> 00:45:08,380 Very deep within ancient texts remained codes yet to be broken. Clouded in mystery, these cryptic messages continue to raise the question, are the visions of our past predicting the future? 474 00:45:08,380 --> 00:45:14,380 Decoding the past, the new series, Next on the History Channel.